Media Player Update

[Der_tolle_Emil]

http://www.e-media.at/home/meldung.asp?ID=2249

Microsoft verschafft sich mit dem Update die Möglichkeit, ungefragt Anti-Piracy Zeugs auf dem PC zu installieren, welches verhindert, kopiergeschütztes Material auf dem PC zu verwenden. Irgendwie eine Frechheit, ich würd den Patch nicht installieren.

Laut EULA bezieht sich das nicht nur auf den Mediaplayer, sondern auf OS Komponenten. Schön langsam wirds Zeit für einen anderen brauchbaren Video Player, RealPlayer und Quicktime sind meiner Meinung nach beide Mist, und MediaPlayer wird ohne Updates auch irgendwann mal alt sein.

[midi]

hast nen link zur eula (deutsch)?

[lucky luke]

quicktime is ned schlecht. real player mist.... filme schau ich in powerdvd und musik höre ich direkt im kazaa wo ichs auch sauge ;)

[Der_tolle_Emil]

Die EULA die dabei ist, ist auf Englisch und Französisch, einen speziell deutschen Patch, hab ich nicht gefunden.

SUPPLEMENTAL END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR MICROSOFT SOFTWARE ("Supplemental EULA")

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[ruke]

Bleiben die eigentlich immer auf Shift kleben oder haben die Capslock only Tastaturen?

[midi]

mein englisch reicht dafuer ned ganz aus

[Der_tolle_Emil]

"Capitalized terms used in this Supplemental EULA and not otherwise defined herein shall have the meanings assigned to them in the applicable OS Product EULA." (Auszug aus EULA)

Heisst soviel, wie die Dinge, die in Caps Lock dastehen, das bedeuten, wie es im EULA vom Betriebssystem festgelegt ist. Damit können sie ein und den selben Punkt mit verschiedener Bedeutung in eine EULA schreiben (zb für Schullizensen oder ähnliche nicht Private User Lizensen).

Also der Englische Teil wegen dem Digital Rights Management (Security) heisst auf Deutsch folgendes:

* Digital Rights Management (Security)._ You agree that in order to protect the integrity of content and software protected by digital rights management ("Secure Content"), Microsoft may provide security related updates to the OS Components that will be automatically downloaded onto your computer._ These security related updates may disable your ability to copy and/or play Secure Content and use other software on your computer._ If we provide such a security update, we will use reasonable efforts to post notices on a web site explaining the update.

Sie erklären sich damit einverstanden, dass Microsoft sicherheitsbezogene Updates für Betriebssystemkomponenten zu Verfügung stellt, welche automatisch gedownloadet werden, um die Integrität von Inhalt und Software, welche durch das Digital Rights Management ("Secure Content"), zu schützen. Diese sicherheitsbezogenen Updates könnten ihre Möglichkeiten beim kopieren und/oder abspielen und beim benutzen anderer Software auf Ihrem Computer deaktivieren. Sollten wir ein solches sicherheitsbezogenes Update zu Verfügung stellen, werden wir uns bemühen Meldungen auf Webseiten zu posten, welche das Update beschreiben.

Der letzte Satz ist scheisse übersetzt, der Sinn bleibt aber erhalten. So Pseudodeutsch ist behindert :)

Edit: Den Rest hab ich nicht übersetzt, weil der eh bei jedem Update praktisch 1:1 dortsteht.

[Defkon]

wieso verwendet ihr eigentlich den mediaplayer überhaupt?

für musik ownt winamp und videos quicktime...

[vaDer]

der zoomplayer is auch noch praktisch für videos sound is ja klar winamp ;)
die kicktome seite bittet ja laufend solche proggis an

[Der_tolle_Emil]

Quicktime suckt. RealPlayer suckt noch mehr. Wenns die 2 unnötigen Formate nicht mehr geben würde, wären die Player sofort tot. RealPlayer verseucht dein ganzes System, jeder Scheiss wird mit dem verknüpft, QuickTime ist langsam und checkt Drag&Drop nicht. Ich denk ich werd Winamp auch für Videos verwenden in nächster Zeit.

[-FloYd-]

Winamp für Videos???
ALso wegen Mediaplayer. Ich hab die Version 8 für Win 2000. Is eigentlich die für XP aber ich hab sie gekriegt. Is schneller im laden und kompatibler

[midi]

Originally posted by -FloYd-
Ich hab die Version 8 für Win 2000. Is eigentlich die für XP aber ich hab sie gekriegt. Is schneller im laden und kompatibler

die freezed bei mir

[-FloYd-]

ja??
dann installier das system neu, es läuft super bei mir

[midi]

Originally posted by -FloYd-
ja??
dann installier das system neu, es läuft super bei mir

letzte woche 3x in zwei tagen :)

[Der_tolle_Emil]

Gibt schon längere Zeit Video Plugins für Winamp.

[Defkon]

@ midi
wieso das denn? :confused:

[midi]

hatte nur langweilig und emi aus versehen gefragt ob man 60% der reg deleten kann

[Defkon]

:D

[Ry]

och...scheisse, war knapp, bei 59% hätts noch gereicht..:D

[midi]

das 1% zuviel war sicherlich solitaer

[Defkon]

nein midi das war gaz klar minesweeper...
wenn du das entfernst kackt dir das komplette windows ab!!! ;)